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“And do Presbyterians have martyrs?” Jamie asked dubiously. “I mean—ye havena got saints, do ye?”

“Why this sudden interest in Presbyterian doctrine?” Roger said, taking care to make the question a light one. “Thinking of converting?”

He heard a brief grunt of amusement.

“I am not. It’s only that I’ve been thinking of late.”

“Ye want to watch that sort of thing,” Roger said, leaning down to unsnag a briar that had grabbed the knee of his breeks. “All right in moderation, I mean, but too much of it will give you the indigestion—mental _and_ physical.”

“Ye’re no wrong there,” Jamie said dryly. “Tell me a way to make it stop that doesna require excessive drink. I need the whisky to sell.”

A faint hooting, as of a distant troop of gibbons, floated through the gathering dusk.

“Well, a close proximity to bairns will certainly do it,” Roger said, smiling at the sound. “When Jem learned to talk, Bree used to tell me she couldn’t manage two consecutive thoughts unless she stuffed something into his mouth. It was a wonder he didn’t burst from over-feeding.”

“Aye, that’s so,” Jamie said, his own tone lightening. “Your wee maid’s clishmaclaver would take a man’s mind off his own hanging.”

That particular image startled Roger, though Jamie’s words had been off-hand.

“Is that the direction of your recent thoughts, then?” he asked, after a brief pause.

After a longer one, Jamie replied, “Aye, some of them.”

_Ah. Hence the question about martyrs_… He didn’t say anything, but lengthened his stride a little, coming even with Jamie. He didn’t say anything, though; plainly his father-in-law wasn’t done talking.

“I dinna ken,” Jamie said finally, obviously taking care with his words, “if I could bring myself to die for an idea. No that it isn’t a fine thing,” he added hurriedly. “But…I asked Brianna whether any o’ those men—the ones who thought of the notions and the words ye’d need to make them real—whether any of them actually did the fighting.”

“I don’t think they did,” Roger said dubiously. “Will, I mean. Unless you count George Washington, and I don’t believe he does so much talking.”

“He talks to his troops, believe me,” Jamie said, a wry humor in his voice. “But maybe not to the King, or the newspapers.”

“No. Mind,” Roger added in fairness, pushing aside a pine branch, thick with a pungent sap that left his palm sticky, “John Adams, Ben Franklin, Tom Paine, all the thinkers and talkers—they’re risking their necks as much as you—as we--are.”

“Aye.” The ground was rising steeply now, and nothing more was said as they climbed, feeling their way over the broken ground of a gravel-fall.

“I’m thinking that maybe I canna die—or lead men to their own deaths—only for the notion of freedom. Not now.”

“Not now?” Roger echoed, surprised. “You could have—earlier?”

“Aye. When you and the lass and your weans were…there.” Roger caught the brief movement of a hand, flung out toward the distant future. “The idea would be there for ye. Because what I did here then would be—it would _matter_, aye? To all of you—and I can fight for you.” His voice grew softer. “It’s what I’m made to do, aye?”

“I understand,” Roger said quietly. “But ye’ve always known that, haven’t you?”

Jamie made a sound in his throat, half-surprised.

“Dinna ken when I knew it,” he said, a smile in his voice. “Maybe at Leoch, when I found I could get the other lads into mischief—and did. Perhaps I should be confessing that?”

Roger brushed that aside.

“It will matter to Jem and Mandy—and to those of our blood who come after them,” he said. _Provided Jem and Mandy survive to have children of their own_, he added mentally, and felt a cold qualm in the pit of this stomach at the thought.

“How old were you, the first time you saw a man killed?” Roger asked abruptly.

“Eight,” Jamie replied without hesitation. “In a fight during my first cattle raid. I wasna much troubled about it.”

Jamie stopped quite suddenly, and Roger had to step to the side to avoid running into him.

“Look,” Jamie said, and he did. They were standing at the top of a small rise, where the trees fell away for a moment, and the Ridge and the north side of the cove below it spread before them, a massive chunk of solid black against the indigo of the faded sky. Tiny lights pricked the blackness, though; the windows and sparking chimneys of a dozen cabins.

“It’s not only our wives and our weans, ken?” Jamie said, and nodded toward the lights. “It’s them, as well. All of them.” His voice held an odd note; a sort of pride—but rue and resignation, too.

_All of them_.

Seventy-three households in all, Roger knew. He’d seen the ledgers Jamie kept, written with painful care, noting the economy and welfare of each family who occupied his land—and his mind.

“_Now therefore so shalt thou say unto my servant David, Thus saith the Lord of hosts, I took thee from the sheepcote, from following the sheep, to be ruler over my people, over Israel_.” The quote sprang to mind and he’d spoken it aloud before he could think.

Jamie drew a deep, audible breath.

“Aye,” he said. “Sheep would be easier.”

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