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Mike · @Vurtax

27th Jun 2015 from TwitLonger

@HPluckrose Okay I am going to reply to you with this and then I'm going to be done. I have things I want to get to tonight and I've replied to many of people before. So I'm going to reply to what you have said and that's going to be it. If you have anything to say after that. Please use this to sum it up. My notifications are flooded as it is and it's hard to manage.

To: "No, you're not! You're still able to express your view equally if others don't think it's worthy!"

Every debate I've gone into with other people I know or I don't. It usually ends quickly when I start asking hard questions or explaining my views on the subject in detail. People lock up, tell me they don't want to talk to me about it anymore or threaten to block me when I never once used insults or mockery

To: "Absolutely! But you are not silenced by people not thinking your view has worth, are you?"

Do you not realize that the Evangelical community has been silenced by most outlets and that we're often accused of hating homosexuals. Of the vast majority of my fellow evangelicals I know. That couldn't be further from the truth.

The common moral stance you see today is "Do whatever you want as long as you don't hurt anybody else." There's a problem with that because no one actually believes it.

Example: let's say I saw a kid drowning in a pool, and I chose not to save him. Am I wrong for doing that? By God I sure am. But that isn't covered in the moral belief mentioned above, if I was logically consistent with it, I'd have every right to walk away and let that kid drown.

In my experience, and in my own conviction. I refuse to support gay marriage for the same reason I share my faith. I see people walking off a cliff, even if they don't realize it, I, as a servant and child of God, need to help them realize they're heading towards of a cliff and need to turn around. Whether they ultimately accept the offer and turn around is not my decision to make, but I'd also be wrong to sit idly by as I watch them destroy themselves. There's also a matter of increased spiritual decay in a country eventually leads to judgement, but that's a whole other can of worms and I'm already 2k+ words in here.

To : "You disagree that gay ppl exist or that they have relationships they wish to solidify or that they have right to do that?"

Also covered: "Are you able to think gay marriage not a good idea while respecting gay people's right to make that decision for themselves? That's what it comes down to ultimately. Whether u think ur view on other ppls marriage shld have any impact on their rights"

Gay people obviously exist. It may sound almost contradictory to what I just said but I don't care what they do behind closed doors, if they want to live that way, I can't stop them, I can only try to convince them otherwise and pray for them. But people demand that it is validated as equal to heterosexual marriage and given the same benefits tax wise (even though the only reason those exist in the first place is because of the possibility of procreation and the next generation, No i'm not getting into gay marriage adoption right now.) When they're practically given all the same benefits of non-gays in the first place with the past laws, what was really the point of the court case today? It was pretty much just tax exemption, and i would also argue other issues regarding conscience and demand for validation.

To: "The people who fail most at marriage are Christians. Wld never decide this meant I should oppose them having the right to it."

Hold up there. 80%+ of america defines themselves as Christians but only 17-15% (roughly) of Americans actually attend church and roughly only 10% have a biblical worldview. Just because someone says they're a Christian does not mean they actually resemble anything like it, because the vast majority of them are fake. As someone who was formerly a member of the other 70% until my encounter with God a little more than two years ago (January 2013) I can validate that.

Anyway, this is now 4 thousand words and it's 8:30. If you wish to reply and debate me on it, please do it with Twitlonger. I would appreciate a level discussion with someone as long you don't resort to insults or accuse me of being full of hatred. I will reply to you at a later time.

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