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27th Mar 2014 from TwitLonger

Hakan Fidan (Chief of Intellignce Office): We’ve sent there about 2 thousand trucks’ load of weapons.
Yasar Guler (army general): In my view, there’s no need for weapons, ammunition is needed rather.
Yes, sir. Hakan Bey here knows, we said we can give them a general. At first Hakan Bey himself requested it. We agreed to send a general. We chose the general. The general went ahead.
Feridun Sinirlioglu (undersecretary to Foreign Minister): Practically, our defense minister must right away sign the order for the sake of the nation. Our Prime Minister must give clear orders in this direction again.
Ahmet Davutoglu (Foreign Minister): Tonight I would…
YG: Tonight, sir, we have no problems.
FS: Tonight an order to launch attack has been already given.
YG: We’ve published an urgent message for attack. Perhaps Hakan Bey knows.
AD: Hakan, if we were to send tanks, what would be the complications there?
HF: Now without coordination… if we take into account the balance of powers…
YG: Sir, that’s why we need the coordination of the Intelligent Office.
HF: with armed men and capacity it is not possible.
YG: That is why, sir, we’ve demanded the coordination of the Intelligent Office from the start. There’s nothing, Minister, that you should worry about tonight. Neither tonight, nor later. But there’s work needs to be done in the long term.
AD: I’m just thinking in terms of options and… if we dispatch tanks from the border… From that moment we should take into account a state of war… we’re, we’re launching an attack.
YG: Directly a cause of war. What we’re gonna do is a clear cause of war.
HF: Not a cause of war with Syria.
YG: But the man…
HF: What I mean is; we know 2X2 makes 4. Now if we… what’s going on there has no strategic meaning for us, it has consequences for our image, etc… Now if we’ll enter a war let’s plan at the outset and wage it. What I mean is…
YG: We’ve been saying this from the start.
HF: What I cannot accept is this: Now we’re risking armed attack for the tomb of Suleyman Shah, that is a piece of land that’s about the size of this room, a hectar or so, for the sake of 22-28 soldiers we have there. How many thousands of km is the border, and we’re not taking such a risk for the lives of millions of people who live along the border. Look, this is not logical! Let me tell you that much. If we’re going to resort to arms we must do so from the outset, if these men are a threat…
FS: Now that has a justification…
HF: To use this as a justification is another issue altogether, another issue…
YG: Now our Foreign Ministry can never find a justification for that other thing, but for this we can find one…
HF: Now look, I tell you something
AD: Meanwhile, the PM said on the phone that this [the attack on the tomb of Suleyman Shah] must be utilized as an opportunity if need be, in this context
HF: Now, sir, commander, if it’s a matter of justification, we can supply one, I can send 4 men to the other side, give orders for them to launch 8 rockets unto empty land. That’s not a problem! Justifications are manufactured. The issue is to display such a will. We’re asserting a will to wage war, we’re falling to the trap of speculation here, as always.
FS: Let me tell you this, an area of 1 hectar. A 1-hectar land is a very solid justification in international law, besides as far as legitimacy goes, in such an operation against ISID, the whole world will be with us. Don’t have any doubts on that.
YG: No, we don’t have any doubts.
FS: No, I’m telling all of us. On that issue…
YG: Well, our forces there have been waiting for a year, sir. It’s not a precaution just recently taken. They’ve been there for a year.
HF: Why are we waiting strictly for Suleyman Shah, that I don’t understand.
AD: We’ve done everything we could diplomatically
FS: We need justification, a solid justification
HF: I can manufacture the justification, that’s not the issue
FS: Manufacturing justification is another thing but there’s a very solid justification out there
HF: If need be we can launch an attack right there [at the tomb itself] as well, we can make them attack there, too, what’s the big deal? We can… I’m trying to get a grasp.
FS: These can be done, of course, if need be, we can have everything done but…
HF: If we are so ready to resort to such means, at the given time and place, let’s determine the goal and do it
AD: Hakan, it’s not that big a deal, if you’re talking about a lack in strategy and manufacturing justification, yes, you’re right. Against these men…
A personel: Sir, before you…
AD: We’ll move to that room, ok, I’m coming. You cannot tell the American Foreign Minister again, let’s take serious measures,
HF: Now, sir, what I mean is
AD: He would say, you could not even defend your own land, we often talk in a friendly way with him, Kerry has said to me, have you yourselves decided about this, this attack, this…
YG: We did, sir, we’ve decided a hundred times. With America…
FS: Look, three days ago something has happened at the Chief of Army Staff, they have had a crisis coordination meeting. I saw him for the first time. The Americans
YG: No, we do it regularly!
FS: No, but the Americans have handed out the plans for the “no fly zone” at this meeting. For the first time in this meeting. Did you know about that?
HF: Now, what I’m trying to underline, sir, is if we are going to make this decision, such a serious decision on the grounds of Suleyman Shah, if are ready for it…
FS: No, not just Suleyman Shah…
HF: No, I’m saying, if we’re ready we should have made this decision long time ago. Based on the threats and interest at hand. That’s what I’m trying to say. As a state, it’d appear impotent to…
AD: Yes, if we made that decision at a smaller scale we would not face this choice now.
YG: But no, we DID take this decision…
HF: But it wasn’t implemented
YG: We could not implement the decision, for various reasons we have been paralyzed, that is our concern, sir. The instruments of state are defunct at the moment
AD: I cannot accept this, frankly, I look at it on my side, with my mores. Would you accept such a thing; that affairs are delayed at the Foreign Ministry due to political discussions… that wouldn’t be legitimate! Everyone will continue with his duties in a resolute manner. If an ambassador said, sir, they can sack me, they sack everyone, what would you say? Would we not say to him, then go ahead and resign, we will find someone who can undertake the duty, right? That’s how one has to view the situation. That’s how things work in a democracy…
YG: Sir, you’re so right
AD: Right now the state operates on a few units and persons who can take good decisions, I…
YG: Exactly, sir, exactly
AD: So are we going to back down from this then?
YG: No, sir, we won’t back down
AD: Anyhow, let’s move to the other room











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